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    Posted: 05 December 2018 at 11:43am
Anyone know why the pub has been closed for the last few nights?
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Its closed for good- flats I believe is what they are aiming to convert it to.
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Funny enough walked past it a few minutes ago and was thinking how sad that its gone. Although I rarely go in pubs I was on friendly terms with all the faces that used to sit outside there as I walk/drive/jog past multiple times a day.
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jesus, more flats.  Developers just dont miss a trick.  What an absolute shame
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It's a growing trend, property developers buying up old pubs and converting them into flats, big profits to be made.
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In my opinion, The Waggon and Horses should be listed and preserved. This is why:

According to local sources, this rendered brick and slate building is believed to date from at least 1828. It is listed in the Chalfont St Peter Heritage Record as Case no Ch1, since it is considered an asset, both aesthetically and because it is a well-used and cherished pub. Indeed, it is now the only pub in the former hamlet of Chalfont Common (3 others having disappeared in 20th Century) and is one of the few surviving cottage buildings which escaped the expansion of the A413 when the Chalfont St Peter Bypass was constructed. It is much used by local residents, especially the older residents, the walk to the pubs in the centre of the main village being lengthy, downhill and involves crossing the busy A413 where many accidents occur. Recently refurbished, the pub is in good condition and occupies a prominent position at the junction of the A413 with Copthall Lane and Rickmansworth Lane and, as such, is a useful local landmark and a visual asset to the village. The most recent landlord provided musical events and also a weekly meat raffle which was a boon to the common’s less well- off residents. It has a raised terrace/beer garden to the rear.
The first traceable record of the building in official records is in the Manorial records of 1835, when William Boddy, a wheelwright, enclosed a parcel of ‘waste ground (around 20 poles)’ at Gravelly Hill [sic]. It was recorded that a cottage which had been erected by him already stood on that land. On 30 July 1841, ownership of the house and land were transferred from Wm Boddy to George Harman but the building was still occupied by Wm Boddy. In 1842, the property was described in that year’s tithe awards as being ‘a beer house and garden’, owned by George Harman but occupied by Samuel Whitlock. On 2 August 1893, ownership was transferred from the estate of Samuel Harman (deceased) to his executors, William Barden Harman, John Muir Curwen and John Courtenay Jackson. From January 1893, however, the occupier of the beer house was EBENEEZER WINDSOR.
In 1921, the local fire engine for the district was housed at The Waggon and Horses. On 1st January 1926, the property was enfranchised under The Law of Property Act 1922 and on 20 December 1935, there was a compensation agreement drawn up by the owners Harmans (Uxbridge) Brewery Ltd. The landlord of The Waggon Horses, in continued occupation from January 1893 until 1949 was EBENEZER WINDSOR. Born in Bushy, Herts., he lived here with his wife, Matilda Jane (nee Gibbs, a daughter of the publican at The Sugar Loaves pub in Chalfont St Giles), and their nine children were all born in rooms above the pub. They appear living here in the censuses (available up until 1911). Their son, Thomas H. Windsor, who was born in the pub in 1897, was killed, aged just 19, at The Battle of the Somme on 1st July 1916. It has been proposed to erect a plaque on The Waggon & Horses in recognition of his sacrifice. Another of Ebenezer’s children, Frederick Windsor, occupied a cottage in Chalfont St Peter Hight Street which he ran as a shoe shop and which dated from medieval times, contained Medieval wall Paintings and a rare cruck post construction, but which, tragically, was demolished in the 1930s to make way for the present-day reviled concrete precinct.
Ebenezer Windsor took over as landlord of the Waggon & Horses on 30 January 1893 and he married Matilda Jane Gibbs the following month. By the time of his death in early 1949, he had been landlord for 56 years. This makes him Buckinghamshire’s longest continually serving (in the same pub) landlord and arguably the UK’s second longest serving pub landlord.
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Great background info Bucks Fizz, enjoyed reading that.

Wonder how long until it is burnt down post planning application turned down - Miltons Head anyone?
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Should it be a Community Asset?

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