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Topic: Why I am fed up.
Posted By: Mal Content
Subject: Why I am fed up.
Date Posted: 26†October†2020 at 5:59pm
I am fed up to the back teeth with what I see around me at the moment.

It rains, and once again it catches out the agencies paid to keep the infrastructure going. The drains overflow as they have done for the past 20 years to my knowledge and there is water inside shops, homes and businesses - everywhere except the Misbourne, which remains resolutely dry. No-one from the Environmental Agencies ever gets rebuked let alone sacked for serial incompetence.

The roads are plagued by potholes and other unsafe hazards. Again, no-one is held to account and we just have to get on with it and good luck with your smashed suspension.

The excuse of ĎItís Covid mate,í rather like the Misbourne, does not hold water. It is over half a year since this whole farrago started, and any half decent manager would have worked out a way of maintaining support services instead of hiding behind excuses.

We were suddenly the guinea pigs for a traffic management scheme that no-one asked for and no-one wanted. How much money was ****ed up the wall on a vanity project is unknown. Only in the never-never land of Local Authority could this ever be described as a good idea.

Thatís it.

PS thank you to all the privately run shops and businesses who remain open despite all the hardships. You are an example of how to keep going, and perhaps some of you could consider getting jobs in Local Authority? We need you.




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Posted By: MV Owner
Date Posted: 26†October†2020 at 7:22pm
Well said Mal.

I have worked in both the private sector and the public sector and one of the problems with the public sector is that there are some people (and in all fairness these are a minority) that literally say "I haven't got a pen".  I have experienced this first hand; that exact statement.

When faced with people who have this mindset in their bone marrow then you have to give up any slither of hope that you had of getting anything useful out of them and the real kick in the teeth is that due to legislation and all matter of hurdles they cannot be sacked.


Posted By: Rich Kid
Date Posted: 27†October†2020 at 11:05am
Well said Mal, whatever you may think of Americans we need their get-up-and-go 'can-do' attitude instead of the bureaucratic constipation that is so prevalent nowadays in our Public sector. 


Posted By: brewski
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 10:31am
Even before the influx of new residents to CSP in the last few years, there where severe drainage/sewage issues. 

At the many SENSE4CSP  meetings I attended regarding the Grange housing estate, Epilepsy Centre ect this was always a main topic of contention along with parking and traffic issues.

Not forgetting the added pressure on our local NHS/education services. 

This was all predicted and I'm afraid to say has come home to roost.




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Too many laws...
Too few examples...


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 12:02pm
totally agree mal, the incompetence of bucks council is astounding....and then they publish a questionnaire as to what to spend their 2021 /2022 budget on.....seriously.....and councillor tetts email update hinting we are heading towards tier 2 restrictions.....a real shame this same councillor is not hinting towards regular bin collections, pothole repairs, drain and gulley clearing, and maybe a raft of other council services we used to have...

Bottle bins and recycling in the car park, gone...
Street lighting turned off...
Road defects.....now down to the motorist to report via fix my street...
Library services....cut to the bone, now run by volunteers
Local policing....bare minimum during daylight hours...non existent after dark...
Education.....it limps along...but needs more funding...
Social care......well what do we say.....

We canít even get weekly bin collections, it seems theyíre collected on an ad hoc basis....itís no longer every 7 days..

You cut a 6 foot tall fence post in half ( to fit in the boot of the car) and take it to the tip...and the operative wants to charge you for 2 bits of wood....no common sense,

There is every reason to be depressed and unhappy....

Bucks council find plenty of funds for legal tangles over names of the now unitary council, they have funds to pay in excess of 70k for inclusion officers, they chose to spend funds from central government on the unwanted quiet way....we just need quality service and a council which stands accountable....we can live in hope



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need a stella and i need one now !


Posted By: big baggles
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 12:50pm
and just got a letter through the post from buckinghamshire council saying covid rates are rising in our area...... Well that was a waste of a stamp..... We know.... Its on the tv.. The radio.. In the papers.... Its on signs on the bollards in our village.. Its all over the internet... Its on councillor tetts email update..... But bucks post me a letter to tell me... Which is now in the recycling bin which bucks wont actually collect on the correct day.... 

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need a stella and i need one now !


Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 1:32pm
I thought that Baggles, such a waste of money, and I agree with this entire thread!! Can everyone stop voting the same idiots back in please??? It's almost pointless voting around here and they absolutely know it so we are ignored.

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Posted By: Motty
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 5:08pm
Well I would agree with everything that has been said, when was the last time you saw a new stretch of freshly laid tarmac?! If you've forgotten Hillingdon is probably the nearest place to go!
It's worth pointing out that the bottom line of all of this is central governments cut in direct funding of County Councils. At the same time the council tax payer is expected to pay more. An example would be the Social Care Precept.
At every election we all decide who we want to govern and since 2010 that's been a Conservative led one. To be fair on them they have always at every election been pretty clear that they believe in small government, now which ever way you look at this inevitably it means reduced public services.
As mentioned above public library services suffer, less money for this and that, roads maintenance seems to be a thing of the past. The pretext to all of this of coarse is that the present government believes this is a way of local government being forced to become more efficient.
Well the reality is we the public are caught between governments aspirations and the reality of every day life in this country
While many of us suffer the general opions of the electorate in our constituency are obviously prepared to tolerate the status quo,  at the last election our local Conservative MP increased her majority!
Until such a time as the electorate wishes to follow a different path nothing with change. 
For many politicians in Westminster the US is the way to follow where all public services are cut to the bone. A good example can be seen on TV news bulletins where for some unexplained reason the American  electorate can be seen queuing for many hours just to vote. This is directly because of a public service being cut to the bone resulting in far fewer places for people to go and vote.
Whenever there is an election we seem as a nation to vote for any(a) political party who says they will cut taxes but then are quite happy to pay more council tax, more taxes here and there and so desperate are public funds we now have to pay arbitrary sums to dispose of a few bits of timber!
Time for dinner!


Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 29†October†2020 at 6:37pm
Enjoy your tea, yes I should have said I agree with all EXCEPT the comment re America!

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The artist formerly known as Bobblehead :)


Posted By: purbeckgirl
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 9:06am
In the councils defence, the government has repeatedly cut the money they are given during the past decade of austerity.
Given the staggering amount that Covid is costing I cannot see that this is likely to improve.


Posted By: brewski
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 9:54am
Originally posted by purbeckgirl purbeckgirl wrote:

In the councils defence, the government has repeatedly cut the money they are given during the past decade of austerity.
Given the staggering amount that Covid is costing I cannot see that this is likely to improve.

Yet they still find money to spend on other non essential projects such as designated cycle lanes by shutting roads and sticking up temporary flower boxes as barriers then spend more money reverting back due to it being a proven cock up!

Lower Rd!!


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Too many laws...
Too few examples...


Posted By: Motty
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 10:25am
EmmO, Curious to know why you disagreed with my ref to US? I wasnt meaning to criticise but merely to point out their views on the way public money is spent and how we seem to follow.
Regards
Motty


Posted By: purbeckgirl
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 10:56am
I think the cycle lane thing was a specific grant from the government that could be used for only this purpose. 
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-billion-package-to-create-new-era-for-cycling-and-walking" rel="nofollow - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-billion-package-to-create-new-era-for-cycling-and-walking


Posted By: brewski
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 8:05pm
Originally posted by purbeckgirl purbeckgirl wrote:

I think the cycle lane thing was a specific grant from the government that could be used for only this purpose. 
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-billion-package-to-create-new-era-for-cycling-and-walking" rel="nofollow - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-billion-package-to-create-new-era-for-cycling-and-walking
Still our (taxpayers) hard earned money!


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Too many laws...
Too few examples...


Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 8:44pm
Agree with you purbeck girl that they lost all their central funding I believe, £80million? something like that, hence the frustration with why this is such a staunch Tory area, we keep letting them do it to us. Equally they shouldn't be wasting what funds they do have which they are on an epic scale.

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The artist formerly known as Bobblehead :)


Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 30†October†2020 at 8:47pm
Sorry Motty I missed your question! That was me typing in a hurry, I agree with what you said re America and disagree with the earlier poster that we should be more like America! That'll teach me!

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The artist formerly known as Bobblehead :)


Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 02†November†2020 at 5:05pm
So many of my friends are leaving the area because of the state of Chiltern / Bucks, so disappointing.


Posted By: brewski
Date Posted: 02†November†2020 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by watsy watsy wrote:

So many of my friends are leaving the area because of the state of Chiltern / Bucks, so disappointing.

And going where?

There seems to be a exodus towards the west country.

And I can't blame them.🥺


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Too many laws...
Too few examples...


Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 03†November†2020 at 8:54am
Some are going to the West Country, but a smattering everywhere. Fed up with the rat race round here, poor roads (they are definitely the worst having occasionally cycled in a few counties this year), lower housing costs etc


Posted By: brewski
Date Posted: 03†November†2020 at 8:56am
No brainer, if you can afford to get out.

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Too many laws...
Too few examples...


Posted By: allotmentman
Date Posted: 03†November†2020 at 6:50pm
Totally agree.
Bucks CC also repaired Joiners Lane recently all the potholes except one - up by Denham Lane.

Why do the others and leave just one unrepaired!!

I think I actually know the answer - It was only 1 inch deep and not 2 inches.


Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 04†November†2020 at 1:39pm
Joiners lane is a joke, how many times as Bucks CC or their contractors attempted to repair the road / resurface it over the last few years.  Huge waste of taxpayers money.  Odd as Denham Lane was resurfaced a few years back when it was in a terrible state and that is still ok.

After it has rained, there is little point trying to get to St Giles via Chesham Lane due to the multiple lakes. Part of that is hopeless maintenance of the drains by Bucks CC locally, partly due to HS2 and the run off from the new tarmac - which brings around the third cause in the village - all our trees and hedges are being cut down and front gardens paved over, so the water has nowhere to go except the lowest point.  I drove through the new Holy Cross development the other night, it was awful, solid brickwork, no hedges, no front gardens, no wonder Lower Road is always flooding now.  

I also drove down School Lane the other day, lots of updated and new houses especially at the top, but when I did my paper round there in the 80's the road had tree canopy - all the big trees seem to have gone.



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