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Topic: Newland Park
Posted By: Rich Kid
Subject: Newland Park
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 10:13am
I read from the site that Newland Park going to be developed, work starting in September - what is being planned?

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Posted By: hissing sid
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 10:27am
Around 260 houses.

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Posted By: EmmaO
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 10:28am
This cut and paste should tell you all you need to know:

As you may be aware revised plans have been submitted for the redevelopment of the Newlands Park site. These may be viewed on the Chiltern District Council website with reference numbers CH/2010/0976/FA and CH/2011/0977/HB. The first of the applications is the redevelopment of the site to provide 264 new dwellings including conversion of the Grade 2 listed Manor House and associated buildings and erection of new fitness and sports facilities and an energy recycling centre. The second application provides for internal and external alterations to the Grade 2 listed Manor House to provide 8 new dwellings and refurbishment of the associated garden buildings, restoration of garden wall, partially enclosing the historic garden of the Manor House, internal and external alterations, conversation of historic stable building to provide four new dwellings, refurbishment of historic garden cottage, internal and external alterations to entrance lodge, demolition of outbuildings to western entrance drive, refurbishment of the lodge to west and arrangement of new facilities for fitness and sport.

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Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 12:38pm
264 is that all? Thought the developers wanted well over 400 originally.  I cannot understand why Newlands, Winkers, Holy Cross and the NSE were all knocked down from their original planning numbers and then we have to release green belt as we aren't building enough houses locally.  Seem to have wasted an opportunity for hundreds of houses on brownfield sites. Maybe I'm being naive but local councillors aren't doing the right thing? Or something more sinister happening.

Newlands is a huge brownfield site - maybe should have swapped Community College over to there as per the Holy Cross / middle school proposals.

Plannning permission for Newlands was given many years ago but they banked the land, partly as a result of the limited number of houses being built.


Posted By: Rich Kid
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 4:00pm
I was a student teacher at Newland Park 1968-71, happy memories, as I lived locally I could go in every day and didn't have to board. No such thing as tuition fees, in fact I received a small maintenance grant to keep me in beer & fags! 
 I was hoping it might be turned into a retirement village for my retirement, it would complete the circle so-to-speak!

My aunt worked there during WW2 when the offices of North British & Mercantile Insurance moved out of London.

There is an 'old students' site, see link, that shows some old pics. http://newlandpark50.co.uk/Home.php" rel="nofollow - http://newlandpark50.co.uk/Home.php

I seem to remember a guy called Ken MacIntosh, who lived in Leachcroft going there around the same sort of time, I wonder what happened to him?


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Posted By: hissing sid
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 4:57pm
I remember Ken MacIntosh.

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Hissing Sid

It's a free country, adopt whatever PC stance you want. Just don't tell me which stance I should take just because it clashes with your opinion.



Posted By: Dave-R
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by hissing sid hissing sid wrote:

I remember Ken MacIntosh.


Who taught at Seer Green?My all time favourite teacher, my first teacher when I moved into the area, a very good man. Retired about 4 years ago I believe.


Posted By: hissing sid
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by Dave-R Dave-R wrote:

Originally posted by hissing sid hissing sid wrote:

I remember Ken MacIntosh.


Who taught at Seer Green?My all time favourite teacher, my first teacher when I moved into the area, a very good man. Retired about 4 years ago I believe.


I knew him, before he even started school. Was trying to remember what his father was involved in. Was he invold with one of the local football teams?

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Hissing Sid

It's a free country, adopt whatever PC stance you want. Just don't tell me which stance I should take just because it clashes with your opinion.



Posted By: Rich Kid
Date Posted: 23†February†2018 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by Dave-R Dave-R wrote:

 
Who taught at Seer Green?My all time favourite teacher, my first teacher when I moved into the area, a very good man. Retired about 4 years ago I believe.


I taught at Seer Green for a short time, the Headmistress was Mrs Trufitt,  before moving to St Joseph's.

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Posted By: Dave-R
Date Posted: 24†February†2018 at 8:26am
Mrs Guyver was there when I went. 1989-1991. I don't know what Mr McK father did but Mr McK was my football manager and coach when I played for the school team.


Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 24†February†2018 at 9:24pm
Sure there used to be a Mr Macintosh at the CSP Middle School when I went there in the early 80's. From my poor memory, he was very tall - but I think everyone was tall to me.


Posted By: dickybird
Date Posted: 25†February†2018 at 10:15am
Drives me mad too, Watsy - the planners don't seem to be making any good use of our brownfield sites.
I have been trying to follow CDC's thinking on the areas they are going to release for more housing developments in the village and I just cannot see any logic or evidence of sensible planning.  Seems that another 200+ houses are set for up next to the Paccar Scout Camp in the very near future - again, is that a sensible site?!?
On the CDC website, they are currently advertising for a new Head of Planning - offering a salary of £67,259 - £78,818(!) 
Think that means that the developments popping up all over CSP will be better planned?!?  Disapprove




Posted By: watsy
Date Posted: 25†February†2018 at 11:40am
I cannot understand why Winkers was halved, yet they are recommending building on green belt almost next door at Paccar as you say.  I guess I could read through the planning notes for a proper explanation...

My thoughts are that it is the councillors not CDC that are at fault.  We need a decent planning officer as private sector (developers) are much better paid - you get what you pay for.  The head of planning will probably pay for itself too if they are able to convince councillors not to block perfectly acceptable developments and avoid the costs of appeal.  I think I was told that successful planning appeals against CDC are in the 70s% so that is a lot of cost that could be avoided and hence the officer will pay for themselves in no time (assuming councillors can be persuaded to vote in line with planning recommendations). I cannot find any evidence on-line to back that statistic up though - can anyone in the know back that stat up or am I wildly off?


Posted By: GODDESS
Date Posted: 25†February†2018 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by hissing sid hissing sid wrote:

Originally posted by Dave-R Dave-R wrote:

Originally posted by hissing sid hissing sid wrote:

I remember Ken MacIntosh.


Who taught at Seer Green?My all time favourite teacher, my first teacher when I moved into the area, a very good man. Retired about 4 years ago I believe.

I knew him, before he even started school. Was trying to remember what his father was involved in. Was he invold with one of the local football teams?
 
great gent Nick Clegg was born in  one Chalfont and studied at Caldicott, abroad etc. He is about to get a lot more recognition, deservedly,
 than just   just   Rt. Hon. 


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Posted By: Rich Kid
Date Posted: 26†February†2018 at 5:35pm
I wouldn't exactly call Nick Clegg a 'great gent' - I'd call him a lying Lib-Dem politician who having said he wouldn't support an increase in university fees immediately agreed to double them on assuming the title of Deputy PM. Cynical or what?
His family used to live in Orchehill Avenue, opposite GX Tennis Club. My Dutch girl-friend at the time was the Clegg's au pair.


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Posted By: ArtB
Date Posted: 27†February†2018 at 7:49am
Originally posted by watsy watsy wrote:

I cannot understand why Winkers was halved, yet they are recommending building on green belt almost next door at Paccar as you say.  I guess I could read through the planning notes for a proper explanation...

My thoughts are that it is the councillors not CDC that are at fault.  We need a decent planning officer as private sector (developers) are much better paid - you get what you pay for.  The head of planning will probably pay for itself too if they are able to convince councillors not to block perfectly acceptable developments and avoid the costs of appeal.  I think I was told that successful planning appeals against CDC are in the 70s% so that is a lot of cost that could be avoided and hence the officer will pay for themselves in no time (assuming councillors can be persuaded to vote in line with planning recommendations). I cannot find any evidence on-line to back that statistic up though - can anyone in the know back that stat up or am I wildly off?

The problem will never be fixed unless demand is sorted out by spreading the demand across more of the UK. The challenge then becomes, lower demand, lower prices, negative equity in current high house cost areas like CSP.






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