Holy Cross - latest proposals

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   There hasn't been much comment on the forum about the latest (alternative) proposals from Arrowcroft for development of the Holy Cross site.

I know the parish council and SENSE support it, since it is better than the initial plan from Gerald Eve and better matches the preferences expressed in the village survey, particularly in respect of huge improvements to the school/academy.

There are some reservations about the thought of a supermarket, but overall I think it will be an improvement for the village, having the area opened up for public access.  Now the Chamber of Commerce have come out in favour of the Arrowcroft proposals - here is their statement: 

The Chalfont St Peter Chamber of Commerce welcomes the concept proposed by Arrowcroft.  This concept is far more sympathetic to the concerns voiced by the residents of Chalfont St Peter when compared with the Gerald Eves plan.  With adequate planning and consultation with local businesses, we are hopeful that the additional 100 new homes will translate into increased business for the majority of businesses in the Village. The management of walkways, parking and pedestrian and vehicular access will prove crucial to ensuring a productive and smooth flow of people, cars and resources around and through the site.

We are not opposed, in principle, to a new supermarket but we also appreciate that the addition of a supermarket will concern some people about the future of many of our village shops and this is something that must be addressed in terms of the consents, permissions and/or restrictions placed on the supermarket. Clearly further consultation will have to be undertaken in this regard. For example, it is understood that the proposed supermarket will be a ‘food only’ store of a certain size.  We understand that the proposed benefits of a new store are that it will help retain, and hopefully increase, the number of local residents shopping in the village.  It should also attract new customers from neighbouring villages and towns.  These new customers will have a chance to sample the individuality of our independent shops which they may not otherwise be made aware of. However, there is always the risk that the supermarket, particularly as it is to be screened off from Market Place by the existing trees, will deter these increased shoppers from venturing out of the supermarket.  

On balance, our committee is encouraged by the prospect of this development.  We are committed to work closely with the Parish Council and other local groups to ensure that the development retains, as closely as possible, the village feel & ethos.

Should you wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce to discuss your views please feel free to contact us on: president@cspchamber.co.uk

All the best.

Regards

Nathan Mincham

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Number42 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Villager Joined: 11 August 2009 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 149	Post Options Post Reply Quote Number42 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Holy Cross - latest proposals Posted: 30 September 2011 at 9:12am
	There hasn't been much comment on the forum about the latest (alternative) proposals from Arrowcroft for development of the Holy Cross site. I know the parish council and SENSE support it, since it is better than the initial plan from Gerald Eve and better matches the preferences expressed in the village survey, particularly in respect of huge improvements to the school/academy. There are some reservations about the thought of a supermarket, but overall I think it will be an improvement for the village, having the area opened up for public access. Now the Chamber of Commerce have come out in favour of the Arrowcroft proposals - here is their statement: The Chalfont St Peter Chamber of Commerce welcomes the concept proposed by Arrowcroft. This concept is far more sympathetic to the concerns voiced by the residents of Chalfont St Peter when compared with the Gerald Eves plan. With adequate planning and consultation with local businesses, we are hopeful that the additional 100 new homes will translate into increased business for the majority of businesses in the Village. The management of walkways, parking and pedestrian and vehicular access will prove crucial to ensuring a productive and smooth flow of people, cars and resources around and through the site. We are not opposed, in principle, to a new supermarket but we also appreciate that the addition of a supermarket will concern some people about the future of many of our village shops and this is something that must be addressed in terms of the consents, permissions and/or restrictions placed on the supermarket. Clearly further consultation will have to be undertaken in this regard. For example, it is understood that the proposed supermarket will be a ‘food only’ store of a certain size. We understand that the proposed benefits of a new store are that it will help retain, and hopefully increase, the number of local residents shopping in the village. It should also attract new customers from neighbouring villages and towns. These new customers will have a chance to sample the individuality of our independent shops which they may not otherwise be made aware of. However, there is always the risk that the supermarket, particularly as it is to be screened off from Market Place by the existing trees, will deter these increased shoppers from venturing out of the supermarket. On balance, our committee is encouraged by the prospect of this development. We are committed to work closely with the Parish Council and other local groups to ensure that the development retains, as closely as possible, the village feel & ethos. Should you wish to contact the Chamber of Commerce to discuss your views please feel free to contact us on: president@cspchamber.co.uk All the best. Regards Nathan Mincham
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born and bred Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Villager Joined: 16 October 2010 Status: Offline Points: 344	Post Options Post Reply Quote born and bred Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 September 2011 at 4:28pm
	We all haver to be realists. There will be a development in the village. The recent scheme from Arrowcroft seems at first glance reasonable. As regards the supermarket,it could prove a decent alternative to Tesco. The improvement for the local schooling is vital.
	local born and bred

Bucks Fizz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfontonian Joined: 11 November 2010 Status: Offline Points: 751	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bucks Fizz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 October 2011 at 8:43pm
	One of my concerns is that Tesco's GX store was supposed to be 'food only', yet I recently saw kindles for sale in there (no, not Kinder eggs, but electronic kindles).

Exp. Interiors Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Villager Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 190	Post Options Post Reply Quote Exp. Interiors Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 October 2011 at 1:23pm
	You're absolutely right. We need to ensure that it does stay that way 'if' this development gets off the ground.
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phisch21 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfont Oracle Joined: 02 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1712	Post Options Post Reply Quote phisch21 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2012 at 5:03pm
	So now they are considering a Catholic Free School on the site - just what we need, bus loads of school children coming to CSP from far and wide. Is there any truth in this? Surely the Arrowcroft makes more sense and benefits the local community more than this hair brained proposal http://www.buckinghamshireadvertiser.co.uk/south-buckinghamshire-news/local-buckinghamshire-advertiser-news/2012/01/26/free-school-set-for-holy-cross-site-82398-30205718/

lesleyr Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Villager Joined: 14 September 2009 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 235	Post Options Post Reply Quote lesleyr Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 January 2012 at 10:45pm
	Can I ask why you think this is a hair brained proposal ?

hissing sid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfont Oldie Joined: 12 January 2005 Status: Offline Points: 10566	Post Options Post Reply Quote hissing sid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 January 2012 at 10:53pm
	My thoughts also, it had been a Catholic school for years. Whats changed?
	Hissing Sid It's a free country, adopt whatever PC stance you want. Just don't tell me which stance I should take just because it clashes with your opinion.

Bucks Fizz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfontonian Joined: 11 November 2010 Status: Offline Points: 751	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bucks Fizz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2012 at 8:05am
	I agree. Since we have a major Catholic parish church - St Joe's, and also its school, we have a sizeable Catholic community. Anyone know if the proposed school is to be a secondary school which St Joe's would feed into, or is it to replace or supplement the current junior school? Either way, it seems reasonable to me. We could do a whole lot worse.

Bucks Fizz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfontonian Joined: 11 November 2010 Status: Offline Points: 751	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bucks Fizz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2012 at 8:10am
	Ah, just read the article properly. It is indeed proposed to be a secondary shcool. That is a loical adjunct to the feeder school, St Joe's. It means the Catholic children in the village and around won't have to be bussed out to Catholic secondaries. It won't discriminate against non Catholics but it will offer parents of local kids a choice. It might offer excellence. There is a demand for this. The Community college is ok but it's massive.

EmmaO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Chalfontonian Joined: 22 January 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1156	Post Options Post Reply Quote EmmaO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2012 at 8:17am
	I think this is very interesting indeed. Given that we have recently had news that school places are going to be hard to find by 2020 this would make sense. I'm interested to see more. I've only been here a few years, what made the last catholic school there close? Was it lack of demand or just run down so the site could be developed.