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    Posted: 22 January 2019 at 5:17pm
I saw plans to connect it to HS1 but they were removed as the government needed them to reduce costs.
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There was a proposal to reinstall the 2nd track for freight use only over ten years ago but it was objected to by many people for the noise of freight trains. Then there was the issue of Marylebone being too small to cope with the additional traffic. Quite frankly the transport planning is not fit for purpose.
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If HS2 is only about capacity why don't they reinstate the 2 lines up the existing route from Marylebone through GX to Birmingham, the lines were removed about 30 years ago but the track bed, bridges, etc are all still in place, whilst it would be slower than HS2, it would give the capacity and be billions of £s cheaper.
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I accept the increased demand, but I would back it wholeheartedly if it connected with HS1 straight through to Europe, Heathow Airport, Birmingham Airport and then Manchester Airport making them all hubs and spreading air traffic around.

I also think instead of Bucks CC lobbying hard against the project and wasting taxpayers cash, they should have lobbied for a station at Aylesbury - huge boon for the town which is gridlocked (as are most places at rush hour) and is still expanding fast, and thus also relieve some capacity for the standard Aylesbury line via Amersham which is full most of the time (i believe from my commuter friends).  

I did suspect when the rumours of a garden city for GX / CSP were mooted by Nick Clegg that they'd build a stop for it here. https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/NEWS/10950985.County_council_pledges_to_fight_garden_city_plan_after_Gerrards_Cross_rumours/?ref=rss ;
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Originally posted by GXCSP GXCSP wrote:

.... It's all about capacity and we desperately need increased capacity, on a number of levels.

Unfortunately we're not smart enough to reduce the demand! All that increasing the capacity will do is increase the demand which means we will soon run out of capacity.... again, vicious circle.


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HS2 is not about speed. Never was, never will be. It just happens to be a by-product of installing a new railway. It's all about capacity and we desperately need increased capacity, on a number of levels.
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To carry on the HS2 thread.

I see they are now planning to drop the trains from 18 an hour down to 14, and dropping the speed.

I seem to remember a meeting at CSP community hall a few years ago where an expert on rail travel pulled apart the business case..

The plan was for something like 18 trains to justify the expense of building it.
She pointed out that no, I repeat NO high speed line anywhere in the world does more than 14 trains a hour currently.

If the Japanesse/germans/french etc cannot run more than 14 how are we going to manage it.

I also think that the dutch high speed network was going bankrupt a while back


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Originally posted by watsy watsy wrote:

It is the road past HS2 access (from CSP) which has been sort of widened.  A gully has been put in where the original road ended (I think) and another 50cm or so dug out on one side and concreted down to Maple Cross, though not all the way down.  

Why have they done this? I thought the temporary road they've built directly onto the M25 was supposed to handle the HS2 traffic?

Anything to do with the new (proposed!) Service station?🤔
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote big baggles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 January 2019 at 11:04am
i have a pal working on the hs2 site in euston.....

nearly a square mile of euston will have construction work going on to create the terminus....

every day there is a site daily /safety briefing for all contractors, 1 hour in duration... the briefing covers topics like site safety, vehicle movements, and site facilities ( and the flavour of the soup of the day in the canteen )
once you have been site inducted and had your daily briefing you can go do physical work....

sad thing is you have to do a daily briefing for every single day you are on site.....1 hour every day of non productive  time... at its height there is thought to be 2500 people daily working there...

so 2500 lost productive hours daily ...!    no wonder hs2 is costly and i am sure it wont be on budget...

so 2 weeks to shut a road and throw concrete into the gully i think is fairly good...lol... they probably had daily briefings too !
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It is the road past HS2 access (from CSP) which has been sort of widened.  A gully has been put in where the original road ended (I think) and another 50cm or so dug out on one side and concreted down to Maple Cross, though not all the way down.  

Why have they done this? I thought the temporary road they've built directly onto the M25 was supposed to handle the HS2 traffic?
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