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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote phisch21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 June 2012 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:


Unless you are looking constantly at the speedo and not the road ahead, then you will at some point break the speed limit, like the majority of drivers.


So average speed cameras are the answer then?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timo_w2s Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 June 2012 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by phisch21 phisch21 wrote:


Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:

Unless you are looking constantly at the speedo and not the road ahead, then you will at some point break the speed limit, like the majority of drivers.
So average speed cameras are the answer then?


It's not good for me, when I'm in an average speed check area I'm looking more at my speedo than usual.
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Originally posted by Dave-R Dave-R wrote:

Who sets the speed limit anyway?Some clueless council drone. Thats why so many roads are artificially low. I mean 40 between Beaconsfield and Holtspur please. Even traffic police say thats too low.

 
I actually contacted the council to oppose the reduction on this one.
 
I got an email reply a while later along the lines of 'Thank you for responding and your comments have been duly noted etc.  The decision is to go ahead with the reduction anyway.'
 
Where it gets interesting is that instead of putting the email recipients in the bcc field, Ms Council put them in the cc field. So I replied (copy all) stating I didn't like my email address being broadcast like that.  I got an apology a week or so later but in the meanwhile there ensued an emotive email flurry between the 9 contributors.  Seems that all 9 opposed the reduction.
 
Now maybe the respondants (if any) for the reduction were contacted separately, but it seemed to me the council's response was generic to go to everyone.  That being so, all respondants were ignored and the 'consultation' was a sham just to complete the paperwork required by law.
 
Was it a couple of years ago there was a mass 'consultation' on changing a large number of speed limits in the area?  As far as I could tell all were reduction and pretty much all proposed by the council were adopted by the council.
 
Bottom line?  IMO the council don't listen to the electorate and don't represent their views.
 
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I used to do a fair bit of work for councils and i find them to be the most horrible,know all, arrogant and ignorant people out there.

A good friend of mine is a traffic cop based at Wycombe, he has 16 years traffic experience and says at least a third of roads have too low a speed limit. My guess is he knows more about speeds,braking,dangerous conditions, etc than some random council drone. 
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Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:

Originally posted by ArtB ArtB wrote:



Forum of the Damned??
 
Art


A dozen contributors, nearly 1400 views, one of the most popular in postings, what else is a forum for?

The unpopular subjects soon go down the page.
 
Well that's what I always used to think Malc but there was the outcry about order in the forum with one of the directives that we were given being that speed related items with a differing opinion should go in Forum of the Damned as the arguments always continually go round and round the same old arguments.
 
If it has a dozen contributors and 1400 views it should still get that elsewhere, might make that area of the forum better used.
 
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Originally posted by Dave-R Dave-R wrote:

I used to do a fair bit of work for councils and i find them to be the most horrible,know all, arrogant and ignorant people out there.

A good friend of mine is a traffic cop based at Wycombe, he has 16 years traffic experience and says at least a third of roads have too low a speed limit. My guess is he knows more about speeds,braking,dangerous conditions, etc than some random council drone. 


We should have voted Brian Paddick in as Mayor of London
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I didnt get a vote at the mayoral elections so to be honest didnt pay too much attention to their manifestos.What did Paddick's say?
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No idea, but he's an ex copper trying to find a place in local politics. Just the kind of person who can set sensible speed limits
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Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:

Originally posted by kermie55 kermie55 wrote:

If people are aware of their surroundings while going over the speed limit how come loads of people get done for speeding each year??


The speed 'limit' is set at a speed you are expected to be driving at. If you drive under the limit you are a potential hazard. For example, if you drive at 40mph on the A40 between GX and Beaconsfield you are liable to be overtaken, because you are expected to be driving at the maximum of 50mph.

All speed limits should be increased by 10mph to allow for different conditions. The speed limit is the same on a clear day with no traffic as on a rainy dark night.

The reason people get done is because the speed "limit" is set too low and this only becomes an issue when police decide to target a particular road.

Unless you are looking constantly at the speedo and not the road ahead, then you will at some point break the speed limit, like the majority of drivers.


So wrong. I think you would benefit from a 'refresher' driving lesson or at least a seminar.
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Originally posted by isntitnice isntitnice wrote:

So wrong. I think you would benefit from a 'refresher' driving lesson or at least a seminar.
 
OK, so you think the speed limit driving on a clear day with no traffic should be the same at night in pouring rain with no street lights?  Or do you think the limit is set at the lowest for all eventualities?
 
Next, try driving down the A413 towards Chalfont St Giles at 20mph, and see how long it is before someone tries to overtake you.
 
Or if you prefer, try the A40 towards Beaconsfield and drive at 35mph. You will almost certainly cause a near miss head on collision.
 
83% of motorist admit to speeding.  I would suggest that this figure would be higher if it included people who do speed but don't admit it, or didn't realise they were.
 
 
 


Edited by Malc London - 07 June 2012 at 1:00pm
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