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OK, the planning application is in as stated above - go here to view documents :
 
 
Some things to consider !
 
1. They are planning to steal around 1m from Lower Road at the junction with Grange Road to enable Grange Road to become a larger road than currently denominated - with the extra traffic it means they need to allow greater "visibility" from Grange Road onto Lower Road. This must mean they deem the junction as dangerous already ? Certainly we have to exercise extreme caution right now when exiting Croft Road...
 
2. If they narrow Lower Road at that junction, what happens to Lower Road itself ? Full double yellows ? The road is dangerous and narrow already with parked traffic, big lorries & trucks etc. What about the effective pathway for the ambulance from the station behind the library ? If they narrow the road will it present a delay threat to those in need of attention ?
 
3. No mention is made of the additional traffic that would be drawn along Lower Road to access the big new offices in Chiltern Hill. That development will only get bigger in time, with offices stretching behind the houses along the A413 - potentially as far as Hither Meadow.
 
4. Personally, not being a nimby, I see the need for something to happen to the site - but I would prefer to see single houses along the periphery to be in keeping with the existing housing along Lower & Croft Roads, not the potential rows of terraces and apartment blocks they currently present as the way forward. The more dense housing should be contained in the centre of the development where it makes more sense.
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The planning application for Holy Cross has now been submitted and can be seen at CDC or on their planning web site.
 

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CH/2010/0293/OA

Submitted by: Holy Cross Sisters Trustees Incorporated

 

 

Outline Application

 

 

The Grange

(Former Holy Cross Convent)

Gold Hill East

Chalfont St Peter

Buckinghamshire

SL9 9DW

 

Outline planning application with matters of access only to be considered in detail at this stage.  The redevelopment of the site to provide a mixed use comprising up to 232 dwellings (Use Class C3); a residential care home for 74 bedrooms and up to 3,370 square metres (Use Class C2); community facilities up to 1,100 square metres (Use Class D1);  together with open space, landscaping and car parking; served from new and altered vehicle accesses from Gold Hill East, and Grange Road, and a new pedestrian access off Market Place, and with associated off-site highway works
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CDC now have a consultation portal - an online site for comments on their plans for housing.
 
I urge everyone to go there, register (easy) and make their opinions known.  This fight is still going on, and we need everyone to keep fighting if you think it is worth saving what we have.
 
Go to:

http://chiltern-consult.limehouse.co.uk/portal/planning_policy/core_strategy/dcs_march_2010

and register, and post comments/objections.
 
 
Also there is a paper being sent to all households by CDC today about the developments, called 'Housing for our Disrict - Shaping the future'.  It includes a questionnaire - an opportunity everyone should take to express their objections directly.  Question 1: Do you support the Draft Core Strategy?  NO
Reasons?  Lack of infracstructure, dwelling density still three times the existing density, developments to large too quick.  Better to develop part of Holy Cross site with school land site swap so there CAN be more school places (all schools currently have no room for expansion), and basic resources they don't have now such as canteens and playing fields - for the little darlings.
 
The paper disingenuously separate Newlands Park from Chalfont St Peter, but we all know where it is!
 
We have had some success, but there's still a long way to go, so please keep helping.  Don't winge to each other - winge to THEM!Smile
 
 
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Been to the latest Gerald Eve display at the library.
Pretty pictures.  Nice words.  Empty promises, such as a promise of a large sum of money for extra school places - where exactly are THEY going to be fitted in then!?  Sustainable?  I think not.
Access to care home and community use building (whatever that is) via Gold Hill East.  Access to all the house via Grange Road.
 
BTW, I hear that of the ("up to") 232 dwellings 60% are to be private, 25% social rented, and 15% shared ownership. 
And that it will amount to 540 bedrooms (plus care home's 80).
According to proposals.
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Originally posted by vince vince wrote:

The new plans from Gerald Eve will be on display at Chalfont St Peter Library from Monday, March 8, for a week, every day until 5pm.
Not quite for a week, since the library only opens for 3.5 short days:
Closed Monday and Thursday (and Sunday of course), open 10am-5pm Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, and 10am-1pm Saturday.
 
It is a big improvement on the 320 in their original proposal and a huge improvement on the 400 proposed by Chiltern District Council last year, so that shows the considerable influence of the lobbying work done by the Parish Council and by SENSE, backed by 'people power'.  But there's still a lot of problems to face and a lot of work to be done, and being done, trying to get a development more in keeping with the existing village character. 
 
What the residents want is clearly either a school land site swap or a smaller development - to be in keeping with existing village character and densities there would be 100-120 dwellings on the HC site. 
 
BUT, there is now talk of up to 500 new dwellings at the Newlands Park site !!!  That would take the whole development in CSP back up to the 800 level originally proposed by CDC in their first Draft Core Strategy!  Sneaky or what! Thank you Carol Castle, head of Planning at CDC.
 
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The new plans from Gerald Eve will be on display at Chalfont St Peter Library from Monday, March 8, for a week, every day until 5pm.
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Just received the letter from Gerald Eve regarding the revised plans for The Grange site, and whilst the proposed reduction in height and in the number of dwellings is a step in the right direction, there are, within the letter, some very vague statements.

"Agreement in principle with Bucks County Council to provide a contribution to provision of additional local school places"  How big a contribution, where are the places going to be, in CSP, Beaconsfield or Amersham, and if CSP where and how are they going to be provided, where can they build more 1st and 2nd school classrooms?

"Drainage/Sewage situation is being progressed   (I assume therefore not resolved) connections can be made to the local infrastructure with improvements to the existing infrastructure" The improvements to the existing infrastructure needs to be completed before the housing is completed, it must not be something that is done when Thames Water gets around to it otherwise we will have flooding and overloaded drains, with sewage coming up in Lower Road again.

In the past developers have said all sorts of things to get the development through planning but 2 or 3 years down the line they conveniently forget or sidestep their obligations. Things then get passed between the County Council, the Water Authorities the Education department, everyone blames everyone else and nothing gets done.

There needs to be a timetable for these "enhancements" which can be monitored by the people affected, namely us.
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Good meeting yesterday morning, something like 450 people in attendance.  Seems the Parish Council are doing an awful lot of work on our behalf, but we have a lot of battles still to fight.  Anyone else there?  What did you think?
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A statement today from our MP Cheryl Gillan about the CDC housing proposals shows that she is now very much on our side and actively fighting.
The statement is (presumably) sent to those who wrote to her about these threats - so some of you may already have seen this.
 
"I am determined that together we will ensure that Chalfont St Peter is not over-developed and more importantly that you as residents are included in and fully consulted on all proposals."
 
She will be at the public meeting Saturday 13th February 10:30 at the Community College.
 
It demonstrates that pressure from te public does work.
 
And we have alreay got CDC to reduce their proposals for Chalfont St Peter from nearly 800 for around 600 (including Newlands Park, which CDC have suddenly listed separately in their new document in an attampt to make it seem like less of an impact on he village - disingenuous or what!).  But that's still FAR too many and too dnse - the fight goes on. 
 
And we have got them to change their minds about public consultation and they plan to do something (properly this time I hope) in the coming weeks. 
 
And we have forced them to reconsider the possibility of a school land site swap.
 
And we have lots of other challenges lined up: English Heritage (how many of you have written to them to request The Grange become a listed building?), Sport England (playing fields), The Victorian Society, Wildlife sciaties, and so on. 
 
Don't let apathy set in and force you out of this lovely village.  The powers that be rely on apathy - keep speaking up!
 
And have you joined the Chalfont St Peter group in FACEBOOK?
 
 
 
 


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