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Outsiders Aren't Welcome

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Topic: Outsiders Aren't Welcome
Posted By: Pants 2 Tight
Subject: Outsiders Aren't Welcome
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 8:39am
I just saw this article on the Daily Telegraph website and thought it would be fun to apply the same principle for social/affordable housing developments in CSP.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7909620/Outsiders-arent-welcome-say-villagers.html - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7909620/Outsiders-arent-welcome-say-villagers.html





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Posted By: oldchris
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 12:08pm
if your talking about taking nightmare families with their feral kids causing problems then i say good!!!!


Posted By: Gemx
Date Posted: 27 July 2010 at 11:11pm
Affordable housing could also bring valuable skills to your village, The NSE is a large employer of very skilled proffessionals, hardly any of which live in Chalfont St. Peter because there is no affordable housing.  Sadly this means that a vital on call system costs the charity a lot of money each year by having to accomodate staff.  I doubt they have "nightmare families with feral kids" 
I agree with the artical, local connection is key, it would be nice to think that my son (6) could stay and raise his family in the village without having to win the lottery! 
I don't think that we should tar everyone with the same brush though.
x
Great debate topic by the way! very contraversial!
 
 


Posted By: Henry
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 7:45am
The NSE has built houses and accomodation for its staff within its attractive grounds.

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Posted By: oldchris
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 11:00am
Originally posted by Henry Henry wrote:

The NSE has built houses and accomodation for its staff within its attractive grounds.

yep, the NSE have a proud record of tied housing.
the only problem is you cannot buy it and if you lose your job, your out on your ear.


Posted By: Gemx
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 8:09pm

True enough! The grounds are attractive, shame about the houses though!

Also families are not able to live in these houses (well at this time anyway)
 
My partner has been working at the NSE as a locum for 18 months, they recently asked him to stay and as we live in Gloucester, the best idea was to move to chalfont, sadly the house prices are twice that of our gloucester home, so we are going to rent and keep our investment in the shire in hope that we can one day make Chalfont our permanent home.
 
"affordable housing" is always a risk to the dynamics of a community, but it can work if the residents are welcomed and integrated properly. 
 
The divides usually arrise not because they are different to everyone else (as they are not) but because people never fail to live up to expectation!


Posted By: oldchris
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by Gemx Gemx wrote:

True enough! The grounds are attractive, shame about the houses though!

Also families are not able to live in these houses (well at this time anyway)
 
My partner has been working at the NSE as a locum for 18 months, they recently asked him to stay and as we live in Gloucester, the best idea was to move to chalfont, sadly the house prices are twice that of our gloucester home, so we are going to rent and keep our investment in the shire in hope that we can one day make Chalfont our permanent home.
 
"affordable housing" is always a risk to the dynamics of a community, but it can work if the residents are welcomed and integrated properly. 
 
The divides usually arrise not because they are different to everyone else (as they are not) but because people never fail to live up to expectation!


go back 30 years, familys of staff were encouraged to live in them.


Posted By: Chillies
Date Posted: 27 June 2011 at 2:39pm
We could also open this out to look at the wider issue over planning permissions in the village in general.
 
Why does the County Council continue to allow people to buy good family sized affordable housing stock and then demolish them to build 5/6 bedroom identikit houses and then allow 2 people to live in them?
 
Surely occupance should at some stage become part of the planning process, because it isn't at the moment by the looks of some parts of the village.


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Posted By: Bucks Fizz
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 11:26am
CSP definitely needs more low cost housing for low paid but key workers, such as postal workers, hospital staff, shopworkers etc. Even a 'millionaire's village' must accommodate its vital support workers. Unfortunately, when Clancy Developments tried to build some on Copthall Lane, local objections led to detached private houses being built instead. I can appreciate people's fears about 'nightmare families' and petty criminals but the reason we have several of these in CSP is that Chiltern Council allows neighbouring South Bucks Council to house their 'difficult overspill' in CSP (GX, which is in S Bucks, has virtually no social housing). There should be some rule by which social housing which is constructed with local taxpayers' money should be offered first to local residents with low incomes. Very few of our children will be able to afford to live here (until they inherit what the inheritance tax leaves them of our own estates). By the way, I understand I am forbidden from mentioning 'travellers' in any of my comments, because some ill-informed people think they constitute a racial group.


Posted By: oldchris
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 9:51am
the trouble familys should be stuck in slough, you cannot rot the rot that way can you.


Posted By: ArtB
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 9:04pm
Originally posted by Chillies Chillies wrote:

We could also open this out to look at the wider issue over planning permissions in the village in general.
 
Why does the County Council continue to allow people to buy good family sized affordable housing stock and then demolish them to build 5/6 bedroom identikit houses and then allow 2 people to live in them?
 
Surely occupance should at some stage become part of the planning process, because it isn't at the moment by the looks of some parts of the village.
 
It's more profitable for the council that way, bigger house equals more revenue, doesn't matter how many people live in it. In fact bigger houses fewer people is even better, much more revenue far less cost.
 
Art


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Posted By: oldchris
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by ArtB ArtB wrote:

Originally posted by Chillies Chillies wrote:

We could also open this out to look at the wider issue over planning permissions in the village in general.
 
Why does the County Council continue to allow people to buy good family sized affordable housing stock and then demolish them to build 5/6 bedroom identikit houses and then allow 2 people to live in them?
 
Surely occupance should at some stage become part of the planning process, because it isn't at the moment by the looks of some parts of the village.
 
It's more profitable for the council that way, bigger house equals more revenue, doesn't matter how many people live in it. In fact bigger houses fewer people is even better, much more revenue far less cost.
 
Art

2 people living in a top band house is worth more to BCC than 5 living in a mid band.
as said.


Posted By: CSPgossip
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Gemx Gemx wrote:

Affordable housing could also bring valuable skills to your village, The NSE is a large employer of very skilled proffessionals, hardly any of which live in Chalfont St. Peter because there is no affordable housing.  Sadly this means that a vital on call system costs the charity a lot of money each year by having to accomodate staff.  I doubt they have "nightmare families with feral kids" 
I agree with the artical, local connection is key, it would be nice to think that my son (6) could stay and raise his family in the village without having to win the lottery! 
I don't think that we should tar everyone with the same brush though.
x
Great debate topic by the way! very contraversial!
 
 
 
 
Whilst it would be nice to think that this is what the houses would be used for, young professionals etc. being able to afford quality low cost housing in CSP. I think it would be stupid to not assume that like most places the houses would be filled with scummers, immigrants and other non-desirables.


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Posted By: Chillies
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 3:58pm
Old Chris your 100% correct hence them allowing so many demolitions in the Heights and 5/6 room corporate houses going up and only 2 people living in them...

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