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No, China did it at source restricting each couple to only one child. That doesn't sort out the problem we'd then have with an ageing population.

I want a CULL. Blood on the streets. Death of the first born. Book of Exodus style.


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Death of first born?No they were first they have the most right, lets Cull those families of 8 who all claim benefits and have never and will never work
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Yeah, sorry, I hadn't thought that through properly. Thanks for correcting me.
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"The ONS figures show that nearly a quarter of babies in England and Wales in 2008 were born to mothers who came from outside the UK, most commonly women from Pakistan, Poland and India"
 
That's an extra 197,750 school places needed each year. Then if say 50% are girls and have babies, that's another 247,000 every year once they reach adulthood, from each years figures.  That's just from Pakistan, Poland and India.
 
Perhaps the impact of immigration is higher than first thought.
 
 
 
 
 


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Malc you must nt say that! You ll be accused of being racist!

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Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:

Yes there were, it's just over two years ago that the shared ownership flats by the car park went on sale.  As mentioned, they did not satisfy demand, just fueled it.  Bit like feeding pigeons, you put more food out you get more pigeons. Stop feeding them and they go elsewhere, (leaving just a bit for the local pigeons).

 
No it didn't. They're what....thirty properties (or less) and I think it was more than two years ago. They were taken up by, mostly, younger Chalfont Saint Peter residents and was nowhere near enough. I suppose if they had laid empty, there would be the customary "what a waste of time" complaints. However, that doesn't address your earlier point. How can this be homeowners moving up the property ladder? These new houses did not have people moving up to larger properties, did it?
 
Quote I'm not sure what's available now but should imagine that people are sitting tight and waiting for an election so things will get more stable.
 
And how will that help?
 
Quote HIPS are a waste of time and money, they are an added bureaucracy to an already expensive procedure and do not take the place of a full structure survey which you have to buy anyway.
 
HIPs are not a waste of time and money. Any vendor can include a full structural survey and add a thousand pounds on to the sale price of the property, without any problem at all. In fact there is room within the rules to charge for this separately anyway, to avoid it being included in the stamp duty. It negates the purchaser's need to conduct a search etc., which only helps with the buying process. Yes it does increase the paperwork and switches the burden on to the vendor, but anything that helps purchasers to conduct the process more efficiently, can only be an advantage, can't it?
 
 
Quote They also stop people putting property on the market who may be thinking of a move but gauging interest. 
 
Well...that's their problem, isn't it. If they want to waste everybody's time and money; estate agents, solicitors and purchasers, it is only right that they shoulder the costs.
 
Quote Get rid of HIPS and Stamp Duty and then you might see some movement in the market.
 
And be taxed another way? What are you willing to pay more tax on, to fill the gap?
 


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Originally posted by Malc London Malc London wrote:

"The ONS figures show that nearly a quarter of babies in England and Wales in 2008 were born to mothers who came from outside the UK, most commonly women from Pakistan, Poland and India"
 
That's an extra 197,750 school places needed each year. Then if say 50% are girls and have babies, that's another 247,000 every year once they reach adulthood, from each years figures.  That's just from Pakistan, Poland and India.
 
Perhaps the impact of immigration is higher than first thought.
 
  
 
A link would be useful. Also an explanation as to the demographical calculation, wouldn't go amiss either.
 
 
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It's all in the original link
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Originally posted by Flyboy It negates the purchaser's need to conduct a search etc., which only helps with the buying process. Yes it does increase the paperwork and switches the burden on to the vendor, but anything that helps purchasers to conduct the process more efficiently, can only be an advantage, can't it? 
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<DIV> </DIV></DIV>[/QUOTE Flyboy It negates the purchaser's need to conduct a search etc., which only helps with the buying process. Yes it does increase the paperwork and switches the burden on to the vendor, but anything that helps purchasers to conduct the process more efficiently, can only be an advantage, can't it?
 
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Regretably it doesn't all of the time. If a house is on the market for over 6 months, and that isn't unusual in todays environment, lenders et al will not accept the search data in the HIP. This means it has to be done all over again, however, it becomes the responsibility of the p
 
Regretably it doesn't all of the time. If a house is on the market for over 6 months, and that isn't unusual in todays environment, lenders et al will not accept the search data in the HIP. This means it has to be done all over again, however, it becomes the responsibility of the purchaser to get it done and pay for it, not for the vendor to supply it and pay for it.
 
As long as the house remains on the market the vendor has met the obligation to provide the HIP.
 
Needless to say this is just something else the has been extremely badly managed.
 
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Originally posted by Flyboy Flyboy wrote:

 
No it didn't. They're what....thirty properties (or less) and I think it was more than two years ago.  These new houses did not have people moving up to larger properties, did it?.
 
It was Xmas 2006 that the notices went up, I think purchases went through during 2007.  They are not moving yet, but hopefully they will and these flats will become available again.
 
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And how will that help?
 
An Election will hopefully see a new Government who can manage the economy better and lead us out of recession. Consumer confidence will then lead to more movement in the housing sector.
 
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HIPs are not a waste of time and money.  It negates the purchaser's need to conduct a search etc.
 
I am pretty certain the mortgage companies will want an independant survey and not rely on the HIP. I certainly would want my own survey and search. It's just an added cost to the housing market. Why pay for a report that tells you how many energy saving lightbulbs are in the property?
 
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Well...that's their problem, isn't it. If they want to waste everybody's time and money; estate agents, solicitors and purchasers, it is only right that they shoulder the costs. 
 
Testing the market is an important part of moving. If you don't know how much your house is really worth then how do you know what you can afford?  Not sure how long HIP's are valid, but do you really want to spend hundreds of pounds only to find no-one wants to buy your house or that it's not worth as much as you thought? Houses can be on the market for years before you get a bite.
 
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And be taxed another way? What are you willing to pay more tax on, to fill the gap?
 
 
Perhaps it needs a fairer method of taxation or at least only tax properties over £1m.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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