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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 11:31am
This might be interesting to follow up for the idea of moving the school?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/10130255.stm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 11:20pm
Yes that's a move in the right direction, not sure if it helps our situation though. We're not exactly poor here in the South East, though we do need investment in our schools especially in CSP.
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At the public meeting in February the local MP Cheryl Gillan stated that, if elected, her party would abolish the requirement directing local authorities to find space for and build huge numbers of houses in the South East.
 
Last week the new Sectreary of State, Eric Pickles, duly confirmed that he is scrapping the directive and wrote to all Council Leaders instructing them that there are no longer any directives from central Government to build thousand of new houses - that development plans would henceforth be under the management of local authorities working with local people.
 
Great, since the connerstone of CDC Draft Core Strategy for Housing was that (I quote Nick Rose, the new leader of the council) "The Government requires this Council to find and identify land for 2900 homes in the District". This was the opening statement in their consultation in March/April (whatever happened to THAT!?).
 
So, that should remove all the threats of the proposed high density developments in the village.  Yes?
 
Well, maybe not.  Nick Rose has issued a statement that despite the directive from the Secretary of State, CDC intend to continue with their Draft Core Stategy!!!  SO they are going against the wishes of central Governmenty AND the wishes of local residents.  Is that arrogant!?
 
We are working on it.  But it is worth noting that the constituency represented by Nick Rose, Great Missenden/Prestwood, which has a population close to that of Chalfont St Peter, AND has a commuter railway station, has - well guess - how many new houses proposed for the next 15 years?  80 - compared with 600 for Chalfont St Peter.  And now strategic developments at all, so no 'affordable' houses.   That is simply natural growth, no huge estates.  What are OUR Concillors doing about it?
Ask them.
 
 
 
That's the answer - what's the question?
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Originally posted by Number42 Number42 wrote:

At the public meeting in February the local MP Cheryl Gillan stated that, if elected, her party would abolish the requirement directing local authorities to find space for and build huge numbers of houses in the South East.
 
Last week the new Sectreary of State, Eric Pickles, duly confirmed that he is scrapping the directive and wrote to all Council Leaders instructing them that there are no longer any directives from central Government to build thousand of new houses - that development plans would henceforth be under the management of local authorities working with local people.
 
Great, since the connerstone of CDC Draft Core Strategy for Housing was that (I quote Nick Rose, the new leader of the council) "The Government requires this Council to find and identify land for 2900 homes in the District". This was the opening statement in their consultation in March/April (whatever happened to THAT!?).
 
So, that should remove all the threats of the proposed high density developments in the village.  Yes?
 
Well, maybe not.  Nick Rose has issued a statement that despite the directive from the Secretary of State, CDC intend to continue with their Draft Core Stategy!!!  SO they are going against the wishes of central Governmenty AND the wishes of local residents.  Is that arrogant!?
 
No they are not. As you have stated the Secretary of State has said they are turning the decisions over to the local councils. The Chiltern District Council have decided to continue with their plan. How is that "going against the wishes of central Government?" That is not arrogance at all, it is good governance. How many local residents have had their wishes gone against, is it the majority of local residents. What or whom, do you consider to be "local?"
 
Quote We are working on it.  But it is worth noting that the constituency represented by Nick Rose, Great Missenden/Prestwood, which has a population close to that of Chalfont St Peter, AND has a commuter railway station, has - well guess - how many new houses proposed for the next 15 years?  80 - compared with 600 for Chalfont St Peter.  And now strategic developments at all, so no 'affordable' houses.   That is simply natural growth, no huge estates.  What are OUR Concillors doing about it?
Ask them.
 
I thought the net figure was about a hundred and sixty.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2010 at 8:29am
Of course residents in other areas are going to approve of housing going to other villages and towns, this is natural. Local people are people who live locally, surely that is clear?
The people in the locality of Chalfont St Peter have overwhelmingly voted against these plans as very clearly illustrated in the excellent Parish Council Survey recently published.
Throughout all of the governments' PPS papers it makes it clear that local plan policies should be drawn up from key factors such as a sound evidence base and public consultation, neither of these have been even remotely executed to a sufficient degree by CDC when formulating their Local Development Framework. If they could demonstrate that they had undertaken correct procedure and that CSP came out as the most suitable site, then we would happily concede, but they haven't and they can't. So until we are appeased that they have laid the groundwork and done their jobs properly, we will continue to fight this, all the way to Judicial Review if necessary.

This is certainly not good governance, it is an appalling example of crisis management and Nick Rose's apparent attempts to keep social housing out of his back yard without involving local opinion or gathering a good evidence base reaks of arrogance. When they should have been consulting us, they kept their plans for CSP shrouded in secrecy, this can only suggest CDC's awareness that their policies and plans are contentious and flimsy.


Quantities as stated in CDC's latest consultation version of the Draft Core Strategy:

46 Dwellings already built between April 2006 and March 2009
24 dwellings with planning permission at March 2009
260 dwellings to be provided on 'identified strategic' sites in urban areas (The Grange/Holy Cross)
70 unidentified but will be drawn from SCHLAA
200 dwellings at Newland Park, though the developer is applying for 500

Total: 600 dwellings

With the planning application at the Grange actually being for 232 homes, plus a care home expected to house around 70 residents and with Newlands Park application being at 500, this could potentially bring the total new number of dwellings up to 943. By allowing CDC to push this plan through we will open ourselves to the usual exploitation by developers and will actually get higher numbers than we'd bargained for.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2010 at 12:40pm

Please provide access to your sources.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2010 at 4:32pm
Originally posted by Flyboy Flyboy wrote:

Please provide access to your sources.



All of the information is available on Chiltern District Councils website, the numbers stated were directly from the Draft Core Strategy which you can download from Chiltern District Councils website:
http://www.chiltern.gov.uk/corestrategy/consultation
Please find page 29 of the document, but 27 on the folios at the bottom of the page, please note that CSP and Newlands Park are in separate rows - total 600 dwellings.
Gerald Eve's planning application outlines 232 dwellings plus a care home for up to 70 residents.
Documentary evidence exists that the developer of Newland Park is going to apply for 500 homes, this is common knowledge, I am not going to trawl through piles of e-mails and paper work to show you this as it is unlikely to be granted, nevertheless he did state that he will be applying for this - of course he might have changed tack since Eric Pickles letter, we expect an application this week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2010 at 6:38pm
And we are supposed just take your word for it? Some e-mails exist, but you are not going to authenticate them?
 
OOOOKKKAAAAYYYY
 
You'll forgive my scepticism as your track record does not hold out much evidence of veracity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2010 at 6:57pm
I have given you the information you asked for, links to that information and this is your reply.

You do not have to take my word for it, download the pdf and see for yourself, that's why I sent it to you.

What e-mails are you referring to?

Please explain yourself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2010 at 3:31pm
Read your own post.
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